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> <channel><title>Comments on: 49 Reasons to Be a Vegetarian &#8211; A Rebuttal</title> <atom:link href="http://nourishedkitchen.com/49-reasons-vegetarian-rebuttal/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://nourishedkitchen.com/49-reasons-vegetarian-rebuttal/</link> <description>Reviving Traditional Foods</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:12:13 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Crystalline Ruby Muse</title><link>http://nourishedkitchen.com/49-reasons-vegetarian-rebuttal/#comment-17375</link> <dc:creator>Crystalline Ruby Muse</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 18:47:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://nourishedkitchen.com/?p=1455#comment-17375</guid> <description>Regarding #14 &amp; the issue of parasites ... both raw vegetables &amp; raw meat have the potential for contributing parasites to the human body. Cooking vegetables &amp; meats will take care of parasites &amp; will break the cell walls of vegetables, making their nutrients bio-available. Freezing meats for 2 weeks or marinating them in an acidified liquid will do the same, if you are wanting to eat them raw (however, I would research the details on marination before experimenting, for safety reasons).My husband, who healed from cancer 12 years ago, was treated by an MD who was also a naturopath. He believed that my husband&#039;s cancer was caused by parasites from eating raw vegetables! The doctor was able to identify three different parasites in my husband&#039;s body, using blood tests.Soaking raw vegetables in water with vinegar or hydrogen peroxide for 30 minutes prior to eating them supposedly kills the parasites. However, according to Susun Weed &amp; Paul Pitchford, if your digestive system is strong enough, it should take care of parasites on its own; just as the immune system takes care of invasive microorganisms when it is strong.I&#039;ll add that I too used to be vegetarian (15 years), vegan (4 years), &amp; a raw foodist (on &amp; off for years). Now I eat a whole foods diet, including local, grass-fed meat, eggs, &amp; dairy, &amp; my health &amp; spiritual well-being are so much better off in general.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding #14 &amp; the issue of parasites &#8230; both raw vegetables &amp; raw meat have the potential for contributing parasites to the human body. Cooking vegetables &amp; meats will take care of parasites &amp; will break the cell walls of vegetables, making their nutrients bio-available. Freezing meats for 2 weeks or marinating them in an acidified liquid will do the same, if you are wanting to eat them raw (however, I would research the details on marination before experimenting, for safety reasons).</p><p>My husband, who healed from cancer 12 years ago, was treated by an MD who was also a naturopath. He believed that my husband&#8217;s cancer was caused by parasites from eating raw vegetables! The doctor was able to identify three different parasites in my husband&#8217;s body, using blood tests.</p><p>Soaking raw vegetables in water with vinegar or hydrogen peroxide for 30 minutes prior to eating them supposedly kills the parasites. However, according to Susun Weed &amp; Paul Pitchford, if your digestive system is strong enough, it should take care of parasites on its own; just as the immune system takes care of invasive microorganisms when it is strong.</p><p>I&#8217;ll add that I too used to be vegetarian (15 years), vegan (4 years), &amp; a raw foodist (on &amp; off for years). Now I eat a whole foods diet, including local, grass-fed meat, eggs, &amp; dairy, &amp; my health &amp; spiritual well-being are so much better off in general.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: david</title><link>http://nourishedkitchen.com/49-reasons-vegetarian-rebuttal/#comment-16432</link> <dc:creator>david</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 01:58:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://nourishedkitchen.com/?p=1455#comment-16432</guid> <description>Very good rebuttal. Researchers at Cornell agree with you. The most efficient land usage is not vegetarianism but an omnivorous diet that focuses more on veggies.http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/oct07/diets.ag.footprint.sl.html</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good rebuttal. Researchers at Cornell agree with you. The most efficient land usage is not vegetarianism but an omnivorous diet that focuses more on veggies.</p><p><a
href="http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/oct07/diets.ag.footprint.sl.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/oct07/diets.ag.footprint.sl.html</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nigel</title><link>http://nourishedkitchen.com/49-reasons-vegetarian-rebuttal/#comment-15939</link> <dc:creator>Nigel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 00:01:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://nourishedkitchen.com/?p=1455#comment-15939</guid> <description>I was confused about the sense I had that Vegan, Are You Threatened? seemed on the verge of hysteria while writing the above comment. Then I saw the web link associated with the name (peta.com).Based on choice of language (and the link to PETA), not eating meat is a personal and ethical choice for &quot;V,AYT?&quot; It is unfortunate that &quot;V,AYT?&quot; seems so wrapped up in their dogma that they are not capable of participating in a rational discussion without throwing out terms like murder, rotting carcass and discussions of eating the family pet. While I am pretty sure they were not eaten, PETA has killed nearly 20,000 cats, docs, puppies and kittens since 1998...ethical to euthanize unwanted animals, but unethical to raise animals on a farm specifically for food?Many vegans obviously have strong feelings regarding the value of animal life as just as important, possibly moreso than human life, and they evidently feel that works for them. I think they are foolish and will pay the price in physical and mental health over the course of their lives, but that doesn&#039;t mean I will proselytize to them. That is their choice.I, and it seems Jenny, and many others who read her blog, believe that humans are omnivores, that there is wisdom in the natural order of things and that being enlightened does not mean behaving in a manner that is at odds with biology and thousands and thousands of years of evolution.Having grown up on a arm where we raised our own livestock and slaughtered some of it ourselves, I place a different value on the lives of animals, than a vegan. I always have, and I always will. I never consumed the family dog, but I have had to put two of them down myself, and as a child there was always a certain amount of affection that you developed for the animals, even the ones you know will wind up on your plate some day. We never needlessly killed anything, and we used as much of the &quot;rotting carcass&quot; as possible. We  gave thanks to the animals and honored their sacrifices for us to live.Vegan, Are You Threatened will probably not change the mind of anyone reading these comments with their evangelical stance, but perhaps readers with questions will do as Sarah H below says and &quot;start researching and thinking for themselves!&quot;  That means being open to opinions different than yours, and accepting that people have a right to those differing opinions.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was confused about the sense I had that Vegan, Are You Threatened? seemed on the verge of hysteria while writing the above comment. Then I saw the web link associated with the name (peta.com).</p><p>Based on choice of language (and the link to PETA), not eating meat is a personal and ethical choice for &#8220;V,AYT?&#8221; It is unfortunate that &#8220;V,AYT?&#8221; seems so wrapped up in their dogma that they are not capable of participating in a rational discussion without throwing out terms like murder, rotting carcass and discussions of eating the family pet. While I am pretty sure they were not eaten, PETA has killed nearly 20,000 cats, docs, puppies and kittens since 1998&#8230;ethical to euthanize unwanted animals, but unethical to raise animals on a farm specifically for food?</p><p>Many vegans obviously have strong feelings regarding the value of animal life as just as important, possibly moreso than human life, and they evidently feel that works for them. I think they are foolish and will pay the price in physical and mental health over the course of their lives, but that doesn&#8217;t mean I will proselytize to them. That is their choice.</p><p>I, and it seems Jenny, and many others who read her blog, believe that humans are omnivores, that there is wisdom in the natural order of things and that being enlightened does not mean behaving in a manner that is at odds with biology and thousands and thousands of years of evolution.</p><p>Having grown up on a arm where we raised our own livestock and slaughtered some of it ourselves, I place a different value on the lives of animals, than a vegan. I always have, and I always will. I never consumed the family dog, but I have had to put two of them down myself, and as a child there was always a certain amount of affection that you developed for the animals, even the ones you know will wind up on your plate some day. We never needlessly killed anything, and we used as much of the &#8220;rotting carcass&#8221; as possible. We  gave thanks to the animals and honored their sacrifices for us to live.</p><p>Vegan, Are You Threatened will probably not change the mind of anyone reading these comments with their evangelical stance, but perhaps readers with questions will do as Sarah H below says and &#8220;start researching and thinking for themselves!&#8221;  That means being open to opinions different than yours, and accepting that people have a right to those differing opinions.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ratilda</title><link>http://nourishedkitchen.com/49-reasons-vegetarian-rebuttal/#comment-15467</link> <dc:creator>Ratilda</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 02:19:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://nourishedkitchen.com/?p=1455#comment-15467</guid> <description>You are delusional, my dear. I hope you research this subject with unbiased resources before you develop any chronic illnesses. Right now you are a perfect subject for Big Pharma. Beware.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are delusional, my dear. I hope you research this subject with unbiased resources before you develop any chronic illnesses. Right now you are a perfect subject for Big Pharma. Beware.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: moksha</title><link>http://nourishedkitchen.com/49-reasons-vegetarian-rebuttal/#comment-15052</link> <dc:creator>moksha</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 06:56:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://nourishedkitchen.com/?p=1455#comment-15052</guid> <description>impressive post - thank you - you hit all the good points and intelligently reposted (as in fencing...!)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>impressive post &#8211; thank you &#8211; you hit all the good points and intelligently reposted (as in fencing&#8230;!)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ondrej</title><link>http://nourishedkitchen.com/49-reasons-vegetarian-rebuttal/#comment-14388</link> <dc:creator>Ondrej</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 17:53:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://nourishedkitchen.com/?p=1455#comment-14388</guid> <description>I ust want to note, that by eating certain animals, you indirectly protect them. It may not work for hunted animals, but it certainly works for farmed animals.If farmer has no market for certain breeds, this breeds will perish. Unless someone recognizes them as some sort of genetic reserves and builds a rescue plan. It nearly happened in case of mangalica pig. This extraordinary breed was near extinction and just interest from spain saved them. Because in Spain, they were able to appreciate their quility meat.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ust want to note, that by eating certain animals, you indirectly protect them. It may not work for hunted animals, but it certainly works for farmed animals.</p><p>If farmer has no market for certain breeds, this breeds will perish. Unless someone recognizes them as some sort of genetic reserves and builds a rescue plan. It nearly happened in case of mangalica pig. This extraordinary breed was near extinction and just interest from spain saved them. Because in Spain, they were able to appreciate their quility meat.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nourishing Nancy</title><link>http://nourishedkitchen.com/49-reasons-vegetarian-rebuttal/#comment-13794</link> <dc:creator>Nourishing Nancy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 17:05:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://nourishedkitchen.com/?p=1455#comment-13794</guid> <description>Just an addition: the rainforests ARE at risk from SOYBEANS! Much of the destruction is now done to make way for soybean crops! Soybeans are a huge commodity...traded publicly on the stock market.  That is no mistake that our &quot;health authorities&quot; now suggest to switch to more of a vegetarian die,t and that soybeans are in so many vegetarian foods!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just an addition: the rainforests ARE at risk from SOYBEANS! Much of the destruction is now done to make way for soybean crops! Soybeans are a huge commodity&#8230;traded publicly on the stock market.  That is no mistake that our &#8220;health authorities&#8221; now suggest to switch to more of a vegetarian die,t and that soybeans are in so many vegetarian foods!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: erzebet</title><link>http://nourishedkitchen.com/49-reasons-vegetarian-rebuttal/#comment-9830</link> <dc:creator>erzebet</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 12:57:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://nourishedkitchen.com/?p=1455#comment-9830</guid> <description>i was a vegetarian most of my life because i didn&#039;t like milk products or meat. i am now an omnivore - i have discovered that meat and cheese can be delicious when they are fatty and high-quality.
i developed allergies but i think that most diseases are caused by the environment and the genes - so i don&#039;t think my diet caused it and neither fermented whole omnivore foods cured it- and it&#039;s wrong to say that people who develop a certain disease did that only because of what they atewhen i was in college i got to read a lot of personal finance blogs and they kept insisting that eating vegetarian is cheaper - to me it turned out false - when my income decreased by one third, i found out that i no longer afford to be a vegetarian because i couldn&#039;t get all my nutrients in a cheap way - so i got to eat a lot of eggs, to make my own products out of raw milk and to eat organ meats that are much cheaper than getting my proteins from soy, lentils and rice</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was a vegetarian most of my life because i didn&#8217;t like milk products or meat. i am now an omnivore &#8211; i have discovered that meat and cheese can be delicious when they are fatty and high-quality.<br
/> i developed allergies but i think that most diseases are caused by the environment and the genes &#8211; so i don&#8217;t think my diet caused it and neither fermented whole omnivore foods cured it- and it&#8217;s wrong to say that people who develop a certain disease did that only because of what they ate</p><p>when i was in college i got to read a lot of personal finance blogs and they kept insisting that eating vegetarian is cheaper &#8211; to me it turned out false &#8211; when my income decreased by one third, i found out that i no longer afford to be a vegetarian because i couldn&#8217;t get all my nutrients in a cheap way &#8211; so i got to eat a lot of eggs, to make my own products out of raw milk and to eat organ meats that are much cheaper than getting my proteins from soy, lentils and rice</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ananta</title><link>http://nourishedkitchen.com/49-reasons-vegetarian-rebuttal/#comment-9587</link> <dc:creator>Ananta</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 15:35:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://nourishedkitchen.com/?p=1455#comment-9587</guid> <description>I have a cousin who is one of those &quot;egg eating&quot; vegetarians, (which I don&#039;t consider to be real vegetarian)and she has completely spoiled her health.  I, on the other hand, became a vegetarian about 8 years ago and have had to do my research in Ayurveda on how to cook and eat properly for my body type.  When you said that you were a vegan in college, your health got spoiled.  Most college kids either don&#039;t know how to cook properly or are too busy to do so, and then like my cousin, they spoil their health.I know many people from India who have lived long lives b/c they cook well and eat fresh, every meal is either rice or chapattis, some kind of lentils, some vegetable dishes with spices, and perhaps a sweet, and then some buttermilk to aid digestion. and if can&#039;t eat fresh, they eat fruits.I&#039;m happy to read that the author doesn&#039;t like factory farms, but the truth of the matter is that a huge portion of the population either doesn&#039;t want to spend the $ on &quot;free range&quot; or they don&#039;t even know it exists.My last point is, that vegetarians seem to age slower and look better.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a cousin who is one of those &#8220;egg eating&#8221; vegetarians, (which I don&#8217;t consider to be real vegetarian)and she has completely spoiled her health.  I, on the other hand, became a vegetarian about 8 years ago and have had to do my research in Ayurveda on how to cook and eat properly for my body type.  When you said that you were a vegan in college, your health got spoiled.  Most college kids either don&#8217;t know how to cook properly or are too busy to do so, and then like my cousin, they spoil their health.</p><p>I know many people from India who have lived long lives b/c they cook well and eat fresh, every meal is either rice or chapattis, some kind of lentils, some vegetable dishes with spices, and perhaps a sweet, and then some buttermilk to aid digestion. and if can&#8217;t eat fresh, they eat fruits.</p><p> I&#8217;m happy to read that the author doesn&#8217;t like factory farms, but the truth of the matter is that a huge portion of the population either doesn&#8217;t want to spend the $ on &#8220;free range&#8221; or they don&#8217;t even know it exists.</p><p>My last point is, that vegetarians seem to age slower and look better.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jenny</title><link>http://nourishedkitchen.com/49-reasons-vegetarian-rebuttal/#comment-9112</link> <dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:40:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
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&lt;p&gt;Just wanted to send you a quick thank you for your comment.&#160; Posts about vegetarianism, meat-eating and grain avoidance always tend to cause a stir, so it&#039;s nice to hear from someone who can really appreciate the value of traditional foods.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;- Jenny&lt;/p&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy -</p><p>Just wanted to send you a quick thank you for your comment.&nbsp; Posts about vegetarianism, meat-eating and grain avoidance always tend to cause a stir, so it&#8217;s nice to hear from someone who can really appreciate the value of traditional foods.</p><p>- Jenny</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Amy</title><link>http://nourishedkitchen.com/49-reasons-vegetarian-rebuttal/#comment-8968</link> <dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:58:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://nourishedkitchen.com/?p=1455#comment-8968</guid> <description>Wow. Such venom from some. Fantastic post, Jenny. Right on target!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Such venom from some. Fantastic post, Jenny. Right on target!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Courtney</title><link>http://nourishedkitchen.com/49-reasons-vegetarian-rebuttal/#comment-6844</link> <dc:creator>Courtney</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 22:45:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://nourishedkitchen.com/?p=1455#comment-6844</guid> <description>I&#039;m sorry,  I just realized I shouldn&#039;t have told you not to say anything about the morality of eating animals in this forum.  I suppose Jenny did say some things in her rebuttal addressing morality so it&#039;s &quot;fair game,&quot; and I really don&#039;t want to limit your freedom of speech.  I guess I just want to see vegans and people like Jenny to come to a common goal in all this.  To combine forces and see an end to industrial farming in America.  That&#039;s what seems to be the common enemy and the thing that needs to go first.  I don&#039;t think I will ever change my mind about the morality of eating animals, and you will be hard pressed to see the end of inhumane, industrial farming by changing the rest of the omnivores&#039; minds on the subject.  Let&#039;s work together to end industrial farming first- I really think we will see a lot more change in a better and healthier direction a lot faster than changing people&#039;s moral codes.  (Not to discourage you from sharing your vision- I just do want to discourage you from being nasty towards people like Jenny who are actually more in line with your cause than you initially think.)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry,  I just realized I shouldn&#8217;t have told you not to say anything about the morality of eating animals in this forum.  I suppose Jenny did say some things in her rebuttal addressing morality so it&#8217;s &#8220;fair game,&#8221; and I really don&#8217;t want to limit your freedom of speech.  I guess I just want to see vegans and people like Jenny to come to a common goal in all this.  To combine forces and see an end to industrial farming in America.  That&#8217;s what seems to be the common enemy and the thing that needs to go first.  I don&#8217;t think I will ever change my mind about the morality of eating animals, and you will be hard pressed to see the end of inhumane, industrial farming by changing the rest of the omnivores&#8217; minds on the subject.  Let&#8217;s work together to end industrial farming first- I really think we will see a lot more change in a better and healthier direction a lot faster than changing people&#8217;s moral codes.  (Not to discourage you from sharing your vision- I just do want to discourage you from being nasty towards people like Jenny who are actually more in line with your cause than you initially think.)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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